Approaching Girls in Large Groups Is A Waste Of Time

I’m not a big fan of approaching large groups of four or more people, whether they’re only girls or mixed with guys.

I honestly can’t think of a harder way to pick up a girl.

When it comes to big groups I wait until the girl I like isolates herself before making a move.

Mystery invented “group theory” and it was the foundation of his game, but when you look at his appearance and pickup style it’s obvious why he was such a fan of it:

He looks like a wizard and even performs wizardry. 

Of course he’s going to open the group, and now with his fame I’m sure it’s even easier.

But for an average guy like myself who doesn’t know magic tricks and leaves the tarot cards at home, it’s smarter and more efficient to wait.

Three weeks ago I was at the champagne club with my Danish roommate.

It was a Wednesday so there weren’t many people.

We’re drinking and I noticed a cute petite girl with five other people at a table (three guys and two girls).

They were busy talking amongst themselves and having a good time, and to me it was obvious they were all friends.

I could go up to them with some fun opener, but odds are I’d be there for three minutes and then they’d politely tell me to have a nice life.

I calculated that the odds of extracting her from the group was 11.4%.

So I waited instead because it was just a matter of time until she had to order some alcohol, use the bathroom, or go outside for a smoke.

She went outside for a smoke.

I looked at my roommate and told him to give me his phone since I left mine at home.

I went outside and pretended to make a call.

With the phone to my ear I looked over to my right and noticed she was standing ten feet away smoking alone.

I took the phone down from my ear, and then took a few steps towards her.

“Excuse me do you know what time this club closes?” I said in English.

I followed up by asking what other places were good that day, an admittingly boring approach but it matched the sedate environment of the club.

She was helpful and I noticed her accent definitely wasn’t Brazilian.

“Your accent is different — I don’t think you’re a Brazilian girl.”

“No I’m from Argentina.”

We talked for at least fifteen minutes outside, well after her cigarette was done.

She really dug the fact that I traveled through her country and we went into the differences between various cultures.

To introduce some tension into the interaction I joked that Argentine’s were snobs who think they’re Italian.

She responded by saying she was half-Italian.

Eventually she invited me to sit at her table and I chatted with her friends, mostly ignoring her, until they dropped out one by one

The day ended with me and my roommate walking her home where phone numbers were exchanged (I already tried to get her to another club but she had to wake up early).

Now I’m not saying that you can’t pull from large groups, but to do well at it you’ll have to be a clown, at least initially.

But no matter how great your jokes are or how accurate your handwriting analysis is, it’s terribly unlikely that you’ll be able to talk to your girl without having her friends be all up in the conversation.

Approaching large groups is too much of a roundabout way to pulling one girl.

It’s a better strategy to wait until that girl isolates herself, which is what you would have do to anyway.

Plus she’ll be much more open to talking to you without her judgmental friends spying on the conversation.

Plus as long as she stays in her group it’s doubtful that other guys will make an attempt, so it keeps her safe from other folks until you’re ready.

If by the end of the day you’re ready to go and she’s still with her group, then go ahead and make an attempt, but if you can wait, then approach.

Until next time.

Your man,

-Elijah “The Realist”